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Cecilia
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Registered: 30-03-2005
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A bit of peace, please?  :grouphug: Why should we always argue toward each other?  :blabla: I like this foruum and I'm here to talk about Vacuum, but I can't stand these everyday quarrels. Please.

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13-02-2006 02:59
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Masha
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Shadow wrote:


Cecilia wrote:

Somehow, we must resign ourselves that the old "plutonium cathedral" flavour is lost forever and delivered only in those albums. Old Vacuum is that, once and forever, something that everyone of us - I think - believe incomparable. New Mattias' songs are different, and we all agree about it. But in some ways the old songs are part of Mattias, they're in his veins. One day he will like again to sing something like the old songs. He will write of positive feelings, in his own peculiar way, which isn't Bard's one.
As I like Mattias also without Bard, I'm happy with it and I'll wait eagerly his new works.
Cecilia!!! Again  :app:  :good:
I can sign to all your words said here  :flower:

It's just funny that there are some people who can't understand one simple thing - there's no turning back... It's impossible to step twice into one and the same flow...
Old Vacuum is and will be in the past. We will love it not less... But we'll never get it back that as it was... Do we like it or not...
This conception was stated here so many times by so many persons... How many times should we start debating this point with so much of emotions in order some people could grasp - things were changed?...

As somebody here in the foruum said right: those people look like our post-soviet old communist people who are still complaining about how hard and awful is life nowadays and how nice and beautiful it was when they lived in USSR  :winky:  (It was said in some Russian topic by one of foruumists... And it was said right.)


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Concerning Masha's off-topics... And all her spamophilia...  :winky:
I must say to her just one simple thing.
Before labling other foruumists, before blaming them for off-topic and for other sins, look at yourself! You are an initiator of most qwarrels here. You succeeded in grappling with the most of foruumists... Just only because they(we) don't play your echo or because of your envy... You succeeded in breaking some most important rules of the foruum... Stop it! Stop calling people slighting names! It looks like ill-mannered child behaves at kindergarten.



Shadow, I once more appeal to you  that you stop writing personal off topic comments.

We were having a Vacuum discussion here until Valenok, The God , Morris and you came and started writing ONLY personal comments.

If you take a look, you will see that neither of you wrote anything related to this topic here.

You only came with posts containg personal comments.  Will you ever stop it ?!

Last edited by Masha (13-02-2006 06:01)


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13-02-2006 05:56
   
Masha
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Cecilia wrote:

I'm here to talk about Vacuum


Me too. Always was and always will. But tell it to the spamophils.

Last edited by Masha (13-02-2006 06:07)


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13-02-2006 06:05
   
The God
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There are times to be serious and times to have fun.
Now I do not see any serious discussion in this topic. Just empty guesses and wishes. Until there is no material to see and to listen, what can be discussed here? News and rumors?

I do not support Valenok's idea of mass-suicide. My craving for life is too stron for that. But I would not mind couple of people here to do that...;-))


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13-02-2006 07:09
   
Masha
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The God wrote:

There are times to be serious and times to have fun.
Now I do not see any serious discussion in this topic. Just empty guesses and wishes. Until there is no material to see and to listen, what can be discussed here? News and rumors?

I do not support Valenok's idea of mass-suicide. My craving for life is too stron for that. But I would not mind couple of people here to do that...;-))


Yet another spam post. Will you ever stop ?!


The God wrote:

Now I do not see any serious discussion in this topic. Just empty guesses and wishes. Until there is no material to see and to listen, what can be discussed here? News and rumors?


If you don't find anything interesting for you in this topic then don't come into it.

You have no right to come into this topic with boring personal comments or with comments how empty this topic is to you.


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13-02-2006 07:32
   
The God
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Masha wrote:

You have no right to come into this topic with boring personal comments or with comments how empty this topic is to you.

As I remember, you are electric engineer, not lawyer. So do NOT declare my rights here.
And you are not a cop (still you try to be a Polizei), so do NOT declare my rights here.
You are not a constitution, so you are NOT the one to give any rights to me.
And you are NOT an admin here (thanks God!), so you can NOT tell anyone to do or not to do smth in this foruum.

Relax and behave yourself. You are just an ordinary foruumist (and not the most pleasant one), so do not try to pose as big boss here.


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13-02-2006 10:03
   
Shadow
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Masha wrote:

Shadow, I once more appeal to you…
Don’t appeal to me since you don’t want to hear me. I won’t lend my ear to your appeals as you don’t lend your ear to my reasons.


Masha wrote:

We were having a Vacuum discussion here...
No. Your personal discussion wasn’t a Vacuum discussion. You’ve started your participation in it with the following caustic comment concerning Vacuum (this Vacuum):

Masha wrote:

I hope it won't be recorded and mixed at Depression Studio


Then you continued personal comments concerning Mattias’ moral state and his creative abilities, trying to say all your comments with as much venomousness as you can:

Masha wrote:

And regarding Mattias’s non stop talking about being fair, kind, honest, good and loving ( look at that first page on vacuum people ! OMG)  ... I think he should apply for Guinness record in the number of spoken word “heart”!

But, I doubt Mattias will "pass the test", having into account being unfair (erasing history, disrespecting old V/ but taking its name as it is "his") and conceited (" Believe us, we know when it's Vacuum ")

Every unfair thing a person does, it kills him inside and he gets weaker and weaker. That's why his lyrics are faithless.

To be strong in faith, one must do right things.

And  if he is depressed, well, unfortunately it isn’t enough just to be in depression to make a masterpiece.

It’s such a  faithless verse  ... so much about death, death, death ....

Songs which I name "depressive" don't have strenght in them, they are just ... nothing ...

He is receiving cries of six billion voices from people on Earth  ... while he is dwelling in afterlife  - a higher dimension, far from Earth...


You picture people who don’t share your point of view as blind stupid fans of Mattias and calling people offensive names:

Masha wrote:

But I understand Mattias's fans - love is blind.

It's just Shorty The Miserable


And after all this you dare to say that you had a normal Vacuum dicussion? You? Breaking rules of FORUUM? Those rules forbid calling foruumists offensive names like “shorty”, “miserable” etc. But you do it constantly from long ago.


Masha wrote:

If you take a look, you will see that neither of you wrote anything related to this topic here.
What is the name of this topic? It’s called “New Vacuum album and single”. Right?
And what about was mostly your discussion? It was about how great is Bard and how weak is new Vacuum... Is it about new Vacuum album and single? Hardly... It's about your fanatic worship...

What about should I discuss in the topic called "New Vacuum album and single"?
OK! I’m waiting impatiently for new Vacuum album and single. I have nothing to say more since I haven’t heard new material yet. What can I discuss here?
Should I applause your caustic comment concerning “depression studio”? I won’t.
Should I engage in battle with you to disprove your fantasies? I won’t (it’s useless).
Should I bare my soul to you? Debating how much I adore that depression mood of today’s Vacuum? I won’t.
It’s not only useless. Moreover – it would lead to another your personal biting comments towards myself, to your long magistral posts explaining me why I’m wrong, why I’m weak, why I’m bad addict and useless… And all this on the background of addle and massive comments how senseless is Mattias’ today’s creativity and how fantastically great is your beloved Bard… I’m fed up with your explanations and don’t want you to rummage in my soul and pollute it with your black tongue.


Masha wrote:

Will you ever stop it?!
I’ll never stop, Masha. I’ll never let you do here in this forum whatever you want. I’ll never let you picture myself and other good balanced foruumists as stupid and just blind fans. I’ll never let you drag through the mud our good and sincere feelings towards many different points of life including music that we love…

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13-02-2006 16:44
   
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To The God:

“Come what thunder and lightning!!!”

:winky:  :biggrin:  :teeth:


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13-02-2006 16:53
   
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Dear friends!
Of course, here you can discuss the each Vacuum, you want (past Vacuum, current Vacuum, future Vacuum, Vacuum with Mattias, Vacuum with Bard, Vacuum with vodka and garnish...), but please... Try to BE RESPECTFUL to each other and the topic of discussion - Vacuum (remind you: past Vacuum, current Vacuum, future Vacuum, Vacuum with Mattias, Vacuum with Bard, Vacuum with vodka and garnish...). That's is the MAIN rule, I think. I can't watch the forum carefully everyday, so could you please be big good kids (especially if you are not kids :)) and watch yourself, what you say?
Additional reading about behavior: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_ten ... 17472.html (it's in Russian though :( ).


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14-02-2006 03:29
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Shadow wrote:


I’ll never stop, Masha. I’ll never let you do here in this forum whatever you want. I’ll never let you picture myself and other good balanced foruumists as stupid and just blind fans. I’ll never let you drag through the mud our good and sincere feelings towards many different points of life including music that we love…


Well, it's very interesting :rolleyes:


Whether it means , that we should ask to Shadow the sanction, what  is allowed to us to do here, and what's - not? :bigeyes:


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14-02-2006 03:50
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Vacuum Music wrote:

Dear friends!
Of course, here you can discuss the each Vacuum, you want (past Vacuum, current Vacuum, future Vacuum, Vacuum with Mattias, Vacuum with Bard, Vacuum with vodka and garnish...), but please... Try to BE RESPECTFUL to each other and the topic of discussion - Vacuum (remind you: past Vacuum, current Vacuum, future Vacuum, Vacuum with Mattias, Vacuum with Bard, Vacuum with vodka and garnish...). That's is the MAIN rule, I think. I can't watch the forum carefully everyday, so could you please be big good kids (especially if you are not kids :)) and watch yourself, what you say?
Additional reading about behavior: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_ten ... 17472.html (it's in Russian though :( ).


And I prefer Vacuum with Mattias :mattiasa: , Bard  :gitler: , vodka and garnish :holms: (To say shorter, just want to drink with them!) :winky:


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14-02-2006 03:53
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Nikusya, what a good link!
It shows clearly what happens here!


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14-02-2006 03:54
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The God
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Shadow wrote:

To The God:

“Come what thunder and lightning!!!”

:winky:  :biggrin:  :teeth:

Dear Shadow,
We have thoruoughly learn your appeal and unfortunately have to say that it can not be satisfied.
It appeared that lightnings are not working well against electric engineers. Since childhood they are intensively trained to have a strong resistance towards high voltage current. Additionally they use lightning rod. So as the Thunderer I can not help you.

But I am sure that chain saw will work better in this case that lightning....
Or maybe missile Heaven-Masha? But better ask AK, he is a weapon specialist. :shoot:

Last edited by The God (14-02-2006 05:22)


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14-02-2006 05:21
   
Cecilia
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Masha wrote: like Mattias has glued himself like a leech to Vacuum name – parasitizing on it


I don't believe Mattias is parasitizing anything - he has the right to use that name and that's the name we are used to and that we learnt to love.

I don't understand why off-topic posts do upset you so much, Masha. If there's a post which I believe useless, I simply skip it. There's no harm done.
I used to frequent forums that were 98% off-topics and I didn't find it alarming. Our dear Italian thread is almost always off-topic and we live there happily together.

A forum is a place for discussion, of course, but also to relax. I believe everyone of us already has to deal with difficult situations everyday at work, university or where else. I already try to cope with non-collaborative colleagues in my working life. Why can't we create a peaceful place here? Shouldn't we try to have a positive manner toward each other? Masha has every right to appreciate old Vacuum more than present one. Other people have every right to like Mattias' new songs more and to add a little off-topic discussion here and there. As long as everything goes on with the RESPECT Nika called upon us, I can accept every kind of discussion.


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14-02-2006 11:49
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So, Nika, you approve that Masha will continue calling people offencive names, will continue to drive us out, will continue to misrepresent our points of view. (As I never said that I’m satisfied with the finish of old Vacuum and never said that we can’t discuss it. I just don’t see any sense to turn the topic called “New Vacuum album and single” into debating how great is Bard.)

So, Nika, you approve that Masha calls Mattias parasitizing on Vacuum name. Right?
So, Nika, you approve that Masha calls us (who don’t blame new Vacuum) leeches glued to this foruum. Right?
You’d like we (who are leeches glued to this foruum by Masha’s definition) to leave this foruum (come unstuck)? Right?

The God, Morris, Cecilia, Out(ex-Valenok), Satellite, Marina, Power, White Queen, Mith, Annette, Antonio, Brute, David and David and many-many other people (most part of foruumists) who love not only old Vacuum but the new one too… We are leeches glued to this foruum (by Masha’s definition) and should come unstuck (by her will and Nika’s approvement)… Is it fair?...


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14-02-2006 14:39
   
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